il me semble que les pauvres Knicks avaient laminé eux aussi une bonne équipe y a 1 ou 2 ans... Mais là encore, faut voir le visage de l'équipe européenne en question.
-- elbou a dit : je sais pas dans quel état de préparation/motivation sont les équipes européennes quand elles jouent des équipes NBA, mais j'ai l'impression qu'elles se font sérieusement botter le cul à chaque fois --
Pourtant les équipes européennes sont censées être mieux préparées que les équipes NBA au moment de la pré-saison NBA, et en effet les victoires européennes sont très très rares
Pour le Partizan Belgrade battu par les Suns je ne sais pas mais pour le Real Madrid, ils jouaient sans pivot car les 3 que comportent l'effectif son blessé (Reyes, Lavrinovic, Van Den Spiegel)
je sais pas dans quel état de préparation/motivation sont les équipes européennes quand elles jouent des équipes NBA, mais j'ai l'impression qu'elles se font sérieusement botter le cul à chaque fois
Utah opened its wallet to keep the core intact, but how much return will it see ?
Offseason Moves
As with several teams this summer, Utah found its offseason colored heavily by two words that have nothing to do with basketball: luxury tax. With Deron Williams' maximum extension kicking in this season and the luxury tax level taking a slight dip, the Jazz suddenly found themselves well above the threshold. They hoped to move under it because Boozer, Mehmet Okur and Kyle Korver all had the ability to opt out of their contracts; somewhat to the team's surprise, all three opted to stay in Utah and play out the final year.
As a result of those decisions and matching an offer sheet to Millsap, the Jazz enter training camp about $14 million over the luxury tax threshold. They've never paid the tax before, and as a small-market team, aren't terribly well-equipped to take the hit. Fortunately, their financial foundation is otherwise solid, so they may swallow the bitter pill to keep the nucleus together.
On the other hand, if the team struggles, it makes little sense to keep Boozer's $12 million deal on the books -- at a cost of $24 million when the tax is included -- and the Jazz are likely to donate him to a team sitting under the cap if that situation arises.
But one thing they're unlikely to do, regardless of cost, is trade what has become an incredibly valuable asset -- a completely unprotected first-round draft pick from the Knicks in 2010. Utah acquired the pick several years ago, but looking at the Knicks' roster, it could very well end up being the first pick in the draft.
Aside from widespread debate about whether the team could handle the tax and if or when Boozer would be traded, very little happened in Salt Lake City this summer:
Drafted Eric Maynor and Goran Suton.
Maynor will take over as the backup point guard after veterans Brevin Knight and Ronnie Price failed in that role last season. He's a savvy four-year player who doesn't have great upside, but as a 10-minute-a-night game manager, he provides decent value for the 20th pick. Plus, he's big enough that he might be able to pair with Williams in small backcourts at times. Second-round pick Suton surprised many by not playing in Europe to develop his skills; instead he will compete for a roster spot in training camp.
Matched Portland's four-year, $32 million offer sheet for Millsap.
This was far and away the biggest decision of the summer, as it all but ensured the Jazz would pay a large luxury tax bill. The Blazers front-loaded the offer to maximize their division rival's financial pain, but for the Jazz, preserving the asset was more important than avoiding the tax. Basketball-wise, that perspective makes tons of sense. The Jazz were looking to a post-Boozer future after this season (or perhaps sooner if they trade him), and Millsap is the obvious successor at the position given how well he played a year ago.
Announced Matt Harpring would miss training camp.
Harpring is staying home and will reportedly check back in six weeks on the progress of his troublesome knee and ankle injuries. While it seems highly likely he will end up retiring, neither he nor the Jazz has gone there yet.
On the court, it's a blow more stylistically than in terms of quality. Harpring's stats declined last season, but his physicality was one of the defining traits of Jazz basketball. With Kosta Koufos -- who is bigger and more skilled, but far less physical -- replacing him in the rotation, Jazz games will less resemble human pinball this season.
Incidentally, if Harpring can't play, the Jazz won't be eligible for any kind of medical exception to sidestep the luxury tax, except in the unlikely event he agrees to a buyout for less than the $6.5 million he's owed. They could get an injured player exception from the league worth $6.5 million to sign another player, but it would count against their tax assessment.
Biggest Strength: Interior Offense
The Jazz will once again pound the ball down opponents' throats, and few clubs are more qualified to attack this way. Up front, Utah overpowers opponents with the three-pronged attack of Okur, Boozer and Millsap, with each being a potent scorer. Boozer is the best of the bunch when healthy, as he combines tremendous strength and leaping ability with a decent shooting touch and arguably the best weak-hand finishing skills in the game. Okur is no slouch either -- while the 6-11 pivot man tends to hang out on the perimeter, he's one of the best shooting big men in basketball and supplements those points with a steady diet of putbacks.
Behind them is Millsap, who could win the league's Sixth Man award this year. Despite being a bit undersized and lacking a perimeter game, he's so powerful and athletic around the basket that opponents struggle to contain him. He was phenomenal as a replacement starter for Boozer, racking up 19 straight double-doubles at one point, and should see starter-type minutes despite coming off the bench.
Finally, don't forget about Koufos. The 7-footer played very well in his limited minutes a year ago and should see a lot more playing time with Harpring and Jarron Collins no longer on the roster.
That covers the frontcourt, but that's not the whole story. Utah's guards are nearly as good around the basket as the big men. Ronnie Brewer shot 55.8 percent and 50.9 percent the past two seasons largely by feasting on layups; few players are better at cutting off the ball. And at the point, the 6-3 Williams is a strong finisher who relentlessly attacks the paint, either setting up others or getting himself a layup and/or free throws.
Biggest Weakness: Wing Shooting
Utah is loaded at point guard and power forward and pretty well set at center too, leaving the wing positions as the major question marks. Those two spots are also largely responsible for the paucity of 3-point shooting the past few seasons, a major weakness since it's allowed opponents to pack in their defenses to stifle Utah's forays into the paint.
The biggest magnet for criticism is small forward Andrei Kirilenko, who came off the bench for most of last season but may return to a starting role this season. He's making $17 million a year but has played much better as a running power forward his entire career -- probably because he's a 30.8 percent career 3-point shooter and seems like a fish out of water on the perimeter.
It doesn't help that Brewer has the same issues. He's at 22.9 percent on 3s for his career and rarely even attempts them; when he and Kirilenko share the court together, it lets opponents double the paint with impunity.
As a result, the Jazz frequently turn to Korver and C.J. Miles. Korver is the best shooter of the bunch but the least skilled in other phases, and his 39.0 percent mark on 3-pointers last season wasn't strong enough for a one-trick pony. Miles got a promotion to the starting lineup but proved disappointing and may relinquish that job this season -- he struggled on defense and too often settled for contested long jumpers.
The best resolution would be to trade Boozer for a strong marksman on the wings and move Kirilenko to the 4, a move that would put Utah in a much stronger position to succeed offensively. Until such an event happens, however, Utah's wings are unlikely to scare opponents from packing in the defense to stop the power game.
Outlook
Much of Utah's projection depends on how the Boozer situation resolves itself, and that's still the biggest unknown heading into the season. Boozer seemed less than enthusiastic about staying in Utah and the feeling appears to be mutual, but his contract and impending free agency makes him extremely difficult to move -- especially if the Jazz are looking mainly to unload his salary obligation.
In this case, all we can do is evaluate the Jazz based on the current roster. On that basis, it appears they have three-fifths of a championship team. Williams is rock-solid at the point, obviously, and the Boozer-Millsap-Okur-Koufos frontcourt can hang with any in the league offensively. Unfortunately, they didn't get nearly enough from the wing positions last season, and with the same four players returning, it doesn't seem that situation will improve.
If so, the Jazz will have a top-10 offense but not a top-3 one, and they need it to be the latter to challenge the West's elite because the defense is merely average. Roster changes stemming from the Boozer situation could alter this outlook for better or for worse, but at the moment, their prospects look only marginally better than last season's.
Prediction: 50-32, 3rd in Northwest Division, 6th in Western Conference.
5 Carlos Boozer
9 Ronnie Brewer
21 Ronald Dupree
44 Kyrylo Fesenko
15 Matt Harpring
6 Paul Harris
30 Alexander Johnson
47 Andrei Kirilenko
26 Kyle Korver
41 Kosta Koufos
23 Wes Matthews
3 Eric Maynor
34 C.J. Miles
24 Paul Millsap
22 Spencer Nelson
13 Mehmet Okur
17 Ronnie Price
11 Goran Suton **
8 Deron Williams
En rouge : nouveaux arrivants (draft)
Karlone “He a bitch !” - Green on teammate Durant 11/12/18 (Mythe)
-- elbou a dit : -- Karlone a dit : Un rookie qui d'entrée de jeu tape un 3/4 à 3pts aux Jazz.. Ce petit Wesley Matthews promet !! -- y a un lien avec Wes Matthews, l'ancien joueur des Hawks dans les 80's ? --
Veteran forward Matt Harpring(notes) will not take part in the team’s training camp or preseason and will miss the start of the regular NBA season.
Harpring has been plagued by knee injuries and an ankle problem. Last year he developed a strep infection after a June surgery to remove a bone spur in his right ankle.
Utah Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor made the announcement Wednesday that Harpring can’t play for now and that his status will be re-evaluated in six weeks.
Harpring has said he’s unsure whether he’ll be able to play again.
Quelle apothose !
Thanks Garcy Je l'avais jamais vu celui là.
Première fois d'ailleurs que je vois le panier de Stockton contre les Rockets commenté par un autre Speaker. Je préfère nettement cette version, j'ai toujours trouvé que l'autre commentateur semblait un peu décu en commentant le shot de Stockton..
Sinon en n°2, ca fait du bien de revoir la passe la plus emblématique du duo Stockton / Malone réussie dans les dernières secondes du Game 4 face aux Bulls. Une passe de quaterback d'une précision parfaite..
Il faut quand même bien réaliser l'audace de Stockton qui aurait du jouer la montre sur cette possession (les Jazz menaient de +3).
Ce Game 4 de 97 constitue le 2eme plus grand match des Jazz après le Game 6 de 97 contre les Rockets.
-- ilyas#3 a dit : Je viens de voir mais Kirilenko c'est quand même 16 et 17 millions en 2009 et 2010. Un peu cher payé le garçon. --
Un des pires rapports qualité-prix de la ligue Kiri..
Je me rappelle quand il a fait sa crise y'a deux ans de rompre son contrat pour aller jouer au CSKA pour 3 millions la saison.. Ca aurait été pas mal avec le recul, mais pas crédible pour un sous..
Son Top 3 (--private pour toi Ilyas ) :
- Ses 2 LF à 1 seconde de la fin du Game 7 2006 contre les Rockets pour qualifier les Jazz.
- Ses deux 5x5 en stat réussis à une semaine d'intervalle.
- Son match à 10 blocks vs Sacramento en 2006.
précisemment, le proprio du Jazz pensait à vendre l'équipe aux Nuggets, mais sans leur laisser Dantley et Griffith - ils les aurait vendu à d'autres équipes. De son coté, le proprio des Nuggets n'écartait pas la possibilité d'une fusion...
Karlone “He a bitch !” - Green on teammate Durant 11/12/18 (Mythe)
-- elbou a dit : tiens Karlone, j'ai appris hier qu'il y avait eu en 1982 des rumeurs et discussions pour une éventuelle fusion Utah Jazz - Denver Nuggets, tu savais ça ? --
Thanks pour l'info (si t as un lien je suis preneur). J'avais déjà lu que la franchise aurait pu disparaitre à cette époque à cause de ses problèmes financiers. J'ignorais par contre qu'on avait failli se faire racheter par les McNuggets..
En 82, ca aurait pu créér une belle puissance de frappe en associant Dantley - "The Scoring Machine" au trio de gunners des Nuggets (English, Kiki et Issel). On doit pas être loin des 100pts de moyenne en cumulée sur ses 4 joueurs.
tiens Karlone, j'ai appris hier qu'il y avait eu en 1982 des rumeurs et discussions pour une éventuelle fusion Utah Jazz - Denver Nuggets, tu savais ça ?
Moi je vois bien le Jazz trader Boozer contre un SG et ne pas matcher l'offre de Portland pour Millsap pour au final ... signer David Lee et Big Baby !
Si le trade Boozer contre Haslem + D. Wright se fait avec Miami, Utah tiendrai un PF back up très solide derrière Millsap et récupérerai un jeune joueur athlétique sur le poste 2 !
SALT LAKE CITY (AP)—Carlos Boozer(notes) doesn’t expect to be playing for the Utah Jazz this season.
Just two weeks ago, Boozer opted to remain with the Jazz for the final year of his contract. But the two-time All-Star told a Chicago radio station Tuesday he expects the Jazz to trade him.
“The Jazz told me they want to go in a different direction and I respect their decision,” Boozer said Tuesday during an interview with WMVP. “We mutually agreed to work out a trade that was beneficial for them and beneficial for my family and me. So with that being said I’m gonna be traded relatively soon or in good time.”
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